Re: Proposal to increase the beta freeze to 3 weeks

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:40:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Proposal to increase the beta freeze to 3 weeks
> 
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Randy Barlow
> <randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Greetings fellow Fedorans!
> >
> > During today's FESCo meeting[0], there was discussion around a proposal
> > to increase the freeze period from 2 weeks to 3 weeks[1]. Several
> > members of FESCo thought this proposal might be unpopular with Fedora
> > developers, so a compromise proposal was made: increase the beta freeze
> > to 3 weeks, but keep the stable freeze at 2 weeks[2].
> >
> > We would like to ask for feedback from the Fedora community about this
> > proposal. Feel free to reply here, or comment on the FESCo ticket.
> > Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
> >
> >  [0]
> > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-11-17/fesco.2017-11-17-16.03.html
> > [1] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1790
> > [2] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1790#comment-480090
> >
> 
> If anything, I'd rather see the freezes shortened. With how fast we do
> composes and things like that, I do not see a good reason to make
> longer freezes. This last freeze was incredibly annoying. At least for
> me, it led me to have to wait for my Bodhi updates to merge long after
> they've reached karma...
> 
> 
> 
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Longer freezes also mean that users who upgrade their systems during the freeze, get various NVR conflicts due to updates having already been pushed for their stable release but not for the n+1 fedora and bugzillas start piling up
as it happened on the last freeze. So I concur with Neal here. However that's only one side of the coin.

If an extra week of testing would provide a more robust release, I wouldn't really mind. 
-- 
Regards,

Charalampos Stratakis
Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat
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