It turns out that the "Rain Date" concept is confusing to some people (particularly where that idiom is not familiar). I propose that for F28 and onward, we keep the basic concept, but ditch that term. Instead, we use: * Release Date Target 1 * Release Date Target 2 (a week later). As now, these will exist for both Beta and Final, and final will only be pushed back if Beta Target 2 is missed. Then (and also new), if the Beta does slip past Target 2, we add a new "Target 3". If Beta slips to Target 3, Final slips to Target 2 (and we don't yet add a Target 3). If beta slips to Target 4, we cross off Final Target 2 and add Final Target 3. I'm happy to bikeshed on calling "Target 1" something like "Early Target". Langdon suggested just dropping any adjectives (hence just "1" and "2", which works, but I want to balance between a feeling of "not really important because it's a fake target" (bad!) and journalists reporting "Fedora slipped once again, of course, because they're always late", no matter how much we explain the process to them. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx