Stephen is correct, this discussion shouldn't be on the development list for the reasons he mentioned above. I've copied
the kde-list. please respond there if desired and remove reference to the development list before sending."I believe you are missing the point of defaults.... which is to provide
as complete environment as possible out of the box. Since this is a KDE
spin, we should be providing as complete of a KDE environment as
possible. Users shouldn't be required to go on a treasure hunt to seek
out available KDE applications. The idea is to showcase what is available in KDE. If you don't want to use a KDE default
you can easily either go into settings and change the defaults, remove
the package you don't want, etc."
It's a KDE spin, not a Google spin, GNOME spin, UNITY spin, KDE-Lite spin etc. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2 October 2017 at 10:57, Sylvia Sánchez <bhkohane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen,
>
> So, according to you, this discussion won't change much KDE Spin?
I am trying to move this conversation from being bikeshedding to
possibly accomplishing something. The devel list is meant for general
discussion topics which affect the distribution as a whole or for
people to try and find who to contact on a specific problem.
Conversations on editions or effects which are run by SIGs do not seem
to get 'fixed' regularly in here because the people who are working on
it may not be on this list or htey may only filter it for once in a
while reading. They are more likely to be cognizant of emails and
topics that are on the dedicated SIG email.
> Besides, how do I join a SIG? Do you have a link by chance?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/kde.lists. fedoraproject.org/
>
> Regards,
> Silvia
>
>
>
>
> 2017-10-02 15:16 GMT+01:00 Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> On 2 October 2017 at 08:45, Sylvia Sánchez <bhkohane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > It's not only a pain, it often ends in an unusable system.
>> > About the browsers, I don't like much Konqueror, actually is one of
>> > those
>> > programmes I uninstall first if it's around. What about Chromium
>> > instead?
>> > It's like Chrome and it's desktop agnostic so it works well and looks
>> > good
>> > in any environment.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Silvia
>> >
>>
>> The way to make changes on the desktop spins is to join the SIG which
>> produces the sping and work there. Ways to make it work is find out
>> why they have chosen those defaults, what effects your wanted changes
>> would have, and do other people feel the same way. Talking about it on
>> this list is not going to get any changes or alternative spins (the
>> KDE minimal).
>>
>> A spin can look like a simple thing which is freely made, but it is a
>> lot of work which is why SIGs are needed for each one. Coming up with
>> what is going to be on it is part of the work because everyone wants
>> something different. There is testing the spin, making sure it doesn't
>> go over certain size limits, working out problems with icons and
>> discoverability, and similar tasks. Every SIG who is doing a spin are
>> always needing people who can help on those other items so helping
>> there would be a good way to explain why making other changes is
>> useful.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > 2017-10-02 12:58 GMT+01:00 Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>> >>
>> >> Dne 9.9.2017 v 17:47 Gerald B. Cox napsal(a):
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe you are missing the point of defaults.... which is to
>> >> > provide
>> >> > as complete environment as possible out of the box.
>> >>
>> >> I am a user of KDE Spin. And I *never* used this way. I always have
>> >> been
>> >> using it as a source for LiveImage so I can
>> >> have GUI with KDE (SDDM, Plasma, Kwin) and then install everything else
>> >> I
>> >> need. It is much better than using official
>> >> sping with Gnome and then removing it (it is a huge pain).
>> >>
>> >> Thou I would leave konqueror on the list as it is always good to have
>> >> some
>> >> internet browser in the minimal installation.
>> >>
>> >> Mirek
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