Re: Confusing SCM package request

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On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Adam Williamson
<adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 12:26 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> What you're catching by doing this forced delay is
>> rushed reviews or laziness on the part of two people.
>
> Also *ignorance*, in the case of legally-not-allowed things. And it

We have guidelines covering that.  I don't really find it acceptable
for a packager to be ignorant of it, and definitely not the reviewer.
Certainly not the sponsors of the packager and reviewers.

If our guidelines are sufficiently long or confusing enough that we
still have people ignorant of this, then it highlights a problem with
our guidelines.

> also allows the folks doing the package reviews to look for patterns
> emerging (like a single packager continually submitting non-suitable
> things, or a reviewer continually doing shoddy reviews) which can be
> then be dealt with appropriately.

Taking your follow up of "folks doing the SCM requests" into account,
I don't think that's what they signed up for?  That's the job of a
sponsor.

However, you're just making cases for the easy to catch things and
didn't address my point of 0 after-the-fact, on-going reviews taking
place.  If we are SO concerned with this up front, why are we
completely unconcerned with it once a package is in?  If we have
problems with our guidelines, sponsor process, and continuation of
both of those then lets fix those.  Don't make SCM admins accountable
for it.  That doesn't make sense and I simply don't agree that forcing
additional human delay here is worthwhile when it could be automated.

josh
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