On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Jakub Jelen <jjelen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > So can we discuss it now once more without the affiliation to systemd? > The fact is that we still do not have any other replacement except > firewalls. But do we need one? > IIRC, in the past discussion there was quite a lot of people arguing that we actually need one. I personally don't think we as a distribution need a drop-in replacement. However, what we possibly need, is a migration path for already deployed systems using tcp_wrappers. Just dropping tcp_wrappers and potentially leaving deployed services completely open would very irresponsible. Also we should consider an impact this change will have on our downstreams focusing on enterprise use-cases (CentOS, RHEL). I recon that "splash damage" potentially caused by this change will be bigger there than in Fedora itself. Michal _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx