On 12 July 2017 at 09:09, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > On 11-07-17 22:57, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski >> <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: >>>> >>>> I ran into this unannounced change: >>>> >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels >>> >>> >>> I noticed this is categorized as self-contained, which I think is wrong. >>> >>> I also have hardware that would no longer run Fedora after such change >>> (a netbook with an older Intel Atom CPU which supports SSE2, but is >>> 32bit). Unless the change proponent can provide some numbers suggesting >>> that 32bit users are a tiny minority of our userbase, I'll probably >>> be against such change. >> >> >> Anyone with 32-bit hardware is going to be against this change. It is >> a known downside. It also doesn't change the fact that i686 kernels >> are in a zombie state, where the kernel team does not actively support >> them and the community has not significantly stepped up to do so. > > > I still have (some) 32 bit hardware in use and I must say that I was > not aware of this zombie state. i686 kernels have been working fine for > me otherwise I would have likely stepped up to fix things (or if that > was too much work replace my last 32bit hardware), but I may just have > been lucky and never hit a bad kernel. > > If the kernel team wants some specific help with ia32 support then > 2 things need to happen: > > 1) A clear request for help needs to be send You missed all the emails from mid 2014 to now? I mean heck I even wrote a horrible blog post to try and get attention to it 2.5 years ago. 2015-01 http://smoogespace.blogspot.com/2015/01/devils-proposal-moving-fedora-to-64-bit.html Josh made a reasoned explanation of what was causing this 2015-01 http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/49909.html 2015-02 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-February/208368.html 2015-08 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/GSIXKLR5RP5OIF6XMDP2WWYOKD4Y5LFM/ 2016-12 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1655 There were several others on multiple other lists. -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
