Re: YAST for Fedora?

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On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
> > > > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach.
> > > > ....
> > > > It's not really a question of resources, but of not thinking this is
> > > > the correct approach.
> > > 
> > > What is the correct approach?
> > 
> > You seem to have missed this in Adam's email so here it is:
> > 
> > i) just getting things right so we don't need a giant pile of
> > configuration tools
> > ii) tools written at more appropriate layers, mainly desktop
> > environments
> 
> This is how you wind up with systemd. 

Um. What? systemd has nothing to do with this, and...

> One overarching tool

...I didn't say anything about 'one overarching tool'.

> It was tried for
> Fedora years ago, and discarded with a passion.

What 'was tried for Fedora'? What are you referring to?

> > Now if you think this is wrong, maybe you could give a few examples and bug
> > reports so that there is something tangible to discuss. Otherwise we're just
> > discussing around opinions and I doubt that it would lead to anything
> > productive.
> 
> YaST DNS management, limited, painful, and difficult to tune for valid
> site specific configuration such as using the same .zone file for
> multiple domains.
> YaST package management, which attempts to incorporate management of
> non-RPM proprietary tools alongside RPM package management, mishandles
> the proprietary tools, and doesn't report conflicts among them though
> it's alleging to manage both.
> YaST mishandling of timezone confurations. (They may have fixed that one.)
> YaST printer configuration. Mind you, that one's always been painful.

Um. You realize I was saying that we *don't* have anything like YAST
and we explicitly chose not to, right? You seem to be confused about
who's arguing what.
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