On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > > > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach. > > > > .... > > > > It's not really a question of resources, but of not thinking this is > > > > the correct approach. > > > > > > What is the correct approach? > > > > You seem to have missed this in Adam's email so here it is: > > > > i) just getting things right so we don't need a giant pile of > > configuration tools > > ii) tools written at more appropriate layers, mainly desktop > > environments > > This is how you wind up with systemd. Um. What? systemd has nothing to do with this, and... > One overarching tool ...I didn't say anything about 'one overarching tool'. > It was tried for > Fedora years ago, and discarded with a passion. What 'was tried for Fedora'? What are you referring to? > > Now if you think this is wrong, maybe you could give a few examples and bug > > reports so that there is something tangible to discuss. Otherwise we're just > > discussing around opinions and I doubt that it would lead to anything > > productive. > > YaST DNS management, limited, painful, and difficult to tune for valid > site specific configuration such as using the same .zone file for > multiple domains. > YaST package management, which attempts to incorporate management of > non-RPM proprietary tools alongside RPM package management, mishandles > the proprietary tools, and doesn't report conflicts among them though > it's alleging to manage both. > YaST mishandling of timezone confurations. (They may have fixed that one.) > YaST printer configuration. Mind you, that one's always been painful. Um. You realize I was saying that we *don't* have anything like YAST and we explicitly chose not to, right? You seem to be confused about who's arguing what. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx