On 02/21/2017 03:33 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > El mar, 21-02-2017 a las 01:56 +0100, Ralf Corsepius escribió: >> On 02/21/2017 01:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 00:14:56 +0000 >>> "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> ...snip... >>> >>>> >>>> Rawhide as it currently exists can't stay solid enough for me >>>> even >>>> with just the few pieces I absolutely need. Tumbleweed, for all >>>> it's >>>> promise of "latest and greatest", is not supported by enough >>>> third >>>> parties to be useful even as just a host. And sid is, well, sid. >>> >>> I'm curious what issues you hit with Rawhide? Have any examples? >> >> Current rawhide (== Feb 15) does not match with what the builders >> use. >> => It's impossible to locally investigate runtime bugs >> >> Real world example: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1425129 >> > Rawhide has been broken since the 15th, First due to nss, then rdma- > core, followed by policycoreutils and setools breakages. Could you please share more information about policycoreutils and setools breakages? I haven't noticed any problem or report and I think we've tested it. I'd like to prevent these problems in future. Thanks, Petr > it has taken a > bunch of manual work to get it all figured out, cleaned up and composes > kicked off, its exactly the types of breakages that I am trying to > avoid by implementing the change. rawhide as it exists today will still > exist i the buildsystem. Longer term I would like to extend things to > do things like automatic rebuilds when we detect breakage. I am sure we > are not going to get this perfect on day 1, but that over time we will > improve and make it more and more useful. The goal is to make everyone > life better. > > I have started looking at ways to make repos available for early > testing and debugging problems in builds that have just been built for > stable fedora's as well. We will have a repo of builds that have been > built but not released. we will also be working to get notifications to > developers quicker that a change they made, has broken things. Please > do not assume that the reason why rawhide is currently a little stale > is due to intentionally not pushing changes or holding anything back > because it is not. It is entirely a matter of the type of breakage we > want to avoid going forward, > > Dennis > > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- Petr Lautrbach
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