Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

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Dne 21.2.2017 v 10:10 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
>
> Dne 21.2.2017 v 01:31 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
>> On 02/21/2017 01:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 18:24:21 -0500
>>> Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Kevin Kofler
>>>> <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>>>>>> I do not get what you mean by your statement, it is extremely vague
>>>>>> with no detail. can you please expand on it in the context of the
>>>>>> change? and the changes it will bring to the entire workflow of
>>>>>> rawhide?
>>>>> Rawhide is just nowhere near working, half the packages have broken
>>>>> dependencies due to not building with the latest GCC.
>>> Thats a bit over dramatic don't you think?
>> No. I fully agree with Kevin K.
>>
>> Feb 15 rawhide is 100% dysfunctional.
>>
>>> 968 currently on the FTBFS list, and even there many of those don't
>>> have broken deps because the previous build still works.
>> Many of the packages you are referring to probably are parts of dep
>> chains, which gradually get fixed or have been missed during the
>> official "mass-rebuild".
>>
>> What you are missing: Due to you keeping the package having been
>> rebuilt since Feb 15 behind closed doors, NOBODY outside RH can have
>> tested them and is able to go after run-time bugs these package
>> introduce.
> Come on. Outside or inside RH, we are on the same boat. There are
> problems which needs to be resolved. I don't understand why you paint it
> as some conspiracy.
>

Just as an example this might be one of the issues I am referring to:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/O7VMZTVUZ6CFUIE3N7TFPRGEPVLFA744/

This prevented Ceph to land for a few days, but once this is polished
out, it will increase quality of Fedora.


Vít
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