> OK, neither will the soname-in-the-rpmname address this in any way, > positive or negative, and as said the issue you raise is far more > involved and w/o any good solution. The leaf detection would > circumstantially help here, but that wouldn't be the main focus. okay I'm going to throw out some silly ideas for gathering info on the 'age' of a package. 1. panu's leaf code - I've used it - it does turn up things that nothing depends on and does it nicely. 2. look for shared objects in the filelists of the things turned up in 1 3. look for packages that have been untouched in > than N days/months/years 4. look for packages whose build date is many many months ago. None of these will get rid of every case - but it will help us identify odd situations and left-over cruft. thoughts? -sv