Re: Upgrade path violations in F25

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>>>> For the release of F25, has nobody run the upgrade path violations
>>>> checker
>>>> to warn packagers about any downgrades the dist update would perform?
>>>>
>>>> A missing zero day update [only available in updates-testing] for Claws
>>>> Mail has hit users. Not great. And I hear there are other packages that
>>>> get downgraded when upgrading to F25.
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems like we should gate updates so that upgrade order is always
>>> preserved.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This is an unfortunate downside of the present freeze process to an extent
>> ...
>
>
>> I'm honestly not sure what the best option here is ...
>
>
> IMHO, it would be best to launch the "post-release" package process the very
> moment the freeze becomes active.

We do, the first updates to stable were done Friday night/Sat morning
before the release. I did another one on the Sunday and I believe
there was one done on the Monday too.

> I.e.
>
> * Before the freeze, packages would go
> "updates-testing" -> "main"
>
> * During the freeze, packages would go
> "updates-testing" -> "updates"
> with rel-eng cherry-picking individual packages from "updates" and move them
> to "main" to compose the "release".

No, once the release is signed off everything goes to updates. As soon
as we know the release is gold we do a freeze break request to update
bodhi configs and start the push process for f25-updates.

> * After the release, packages would go
> "updates-testing" -> "updates"
> as before.
>
> This would allow packagers to continue their works in all phases of release
> preparations without lockouts, delays and upgrade path violations.
> It would also avoid the usual "flood of updates", commonly Fedora
> experiences in early post release weeks.

So we already do pretty much what you outline above. I started the
first push to f25-updates on the Friday before the release.

Peter
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