Re: F24 GStreamer zero day

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> On 23 November 2016 at 14:03, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Adam Williamson
> > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 10:33 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> >>> On Nov 23, 2016 10:12 AM, "Michael Catanzaro" <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 16:36 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >>> > > I don't think that is entirely true. I've recently been trying
> >>> > > to get gnome3 to run on under-powered machines like cheap ARM
> >>> > > tablets, and I can do "dnf remove tracker" more or less just
> >>> > > fine, I loose totem due to some weird dependency chain, and I
> >>> > > think also gnome-documents which I guess is an issue for some
> >>> > > use-cases, but most of gnome will stay and work just fine.
> >>> >
> >>> > Besides those, also gnome-photos and gnome-music (which aren't
> >>> > installed by default currently, but will eventually be). And indexed
> >>> > search is really very important for nautilus.
> >>>
> >>> That's indexed search by *name*, right?  I can't imagine *any* reason
> >>> that
> >>> running a codec in the indexer is needed for nautilus.
> >>
> >> "I want to find all the files I have that are songs by Justin Bieber,
> >> so I can shoot them into outer space".
> >
> > Pretty sure such metadata is a function of the container format, e.g.
> > mp4, m4a, rather than the codec used for encoding the music or video
> > itself.
> 
> It might be but because most people tie those two things together when
> they are writing code.. they get bundled together. This is why codecs
> have been such a rich target in Windows (and in some ways Mac) malware
> over the years. You get two channels to build an exploit for free :).

They're not bundled together. Especially seeing as the popular filetypes
have codecs depending on patents whereas the container formats don't.

We've been able to tell you how long your DivX or MPEG-4 files were,
out-of-the-box, on Fedora, for years. We just can't play them out-of-the-box.
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