Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

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On 11.11.2016 19:25, Japheth Cleaver wrote:
> On 11/11/2016 9:08 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> I still believe we should stick to a generic hostname by default,
>> (though I'd rather use "localhost" than "localhost.localdomain" in
>> order to drop the redhatism that "localdomain" is), and make the IPA
>> client-side enrollment code automatically update to a more "unique"
>> hostname if the hostname is found to be unset or be "localhost".
>>
>> I am also pretty sure that DHCP clients should suppress sending local
>> hostname information if the local hostname is unset or "localhost".
> 
> Given the text of RFC6761 [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6761#section-6.3],
> something like "fedora-XXXXXX.localhost" would also be an option, if we
> absolutely needed a domain component. ("localdomain." seems like a
> not-invisible number of root TLD lookups at
> http://stats.dns.icann.org/hedgehog/). But a simple "localhost" seems a
> sufficient default over this localdomain. redhatism.

I support his. We should use <whatever>.localhost so RFC6761 applies and
Fedora boxes do not pollute DNS infrastructure with nonsensical requests
nobody can answer.

Petr^2 Spacek

> 
> 
> On 11/11/2016 6:50 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:13:48PM -0000, fredrik@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> I like Fedora-XXXXXXXX for default hostname. If I don't care to set a
>>> hostname it would be an ok hostname for my machine. I would however like if
>>> the hostname setting would be more prominent in the installer. Possibly
>>> generating based on my name along the lines of:  fredriks-laptop.rambris.lan
>> Making the choice it more prominent is probably not necessary, if we
>> provide a nice default. Although it probably wouldn't hurt. The hostname
>> could be displayed in the summary or maybe the user creation dialogue
>> ('Create user "user1@Fedora-123345"'?).
> 
> Anaconda having a distinct panel explicitly for setting the hostname, along
> with some knobs for setting the default, depending, for example, on if we've
> already gotten an IP during PXE, would be a good thing IMO.
> 
> Prompts and options would help with some kickstart situations, where one would
> like a chance to permanently specify it during install regardless of user
> accounts or install-time networking, and before we reboot for the first time.
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