Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

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On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:17:39AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 11 November 2016 at 22:20, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 01:20:26PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> 
> >> I can't think of a reason why we'd need a cryptographically secure
> >> transformation just to generate a random hostname.
> >
> > We want it cryptographically secure to preserve the machine-id. It's
> > probably not too important in itself, but it's a good idea to keep
> > it hidden because other hashes might be generated from it.
> 
> Which lies in the problem. If people are going to derive hashes from
> it they will do so any way the want and most likely it will be leaked
> out by someone doing a sum  or just copying it etc. If there is
> something 'unique' on a system, it will leak out eventually. All you
> can do is try to design to drip out slowly or pour out all at once.
> Trying to find some happy middle ground ends up usually with it
> pouring out all at once when no one expected it.

True. But one, it's not *that* important, it's not the root password
or anything. But two, it'd say that we're designing it to drip out very
very slowly.

Zbyszek
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