Re: RFC (round 2): Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

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On 11/11/2016 12:17 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> /me dons crypto hat.
> 
> SHA(x || k) has three problems, one of which is bad enough to be an absolute
> showstopper.
> 
> 1. Specify *which* SHA.  SHA-1 should not be used for new applications.
> 
> 2. Concatenation without some additional property preventing collisions of the
> hashed data is problematic.  In particular, if you shorten x by a byte and
> prepend the same byte to k, you get the same output.  This is probably
> irrelevant for this particular use case, but it's still a sign that the
> construction is bad.
> 
> 3.  The SHA hashes, like all Merkle-Damgård hashes, is subject to
> length-extension attacks.  In particular, if x is a multiple (or slightly above
> a multiple) of the block length, then anyone who learns SHA(x) can efficiently
> derive SHA(x || k).  This basically removes all security from this scheme.
> 
> HMAC(k, x) would be much better.
> 
> But I think this protocol is generally more fragile then needed.  How about
> generating a per-app-installation random value and HMAC-ing *that* with the
> machine id?


I think this is extreme overkill for something that doesn't need to be
cryptographically sound. It literally just needs to be eight characters with a
sensible random distribution. I considered using some non-reversible
transformation of machine-id for this simply because I wanted to avoid trying to
consume any of the entropy in /dev/random since we'd be doing this early in the
installer (when entropy tends to be at a premium). Maybe that was overkill and I
should just pull from /dev/random.

I can't think of a reason why we'd need a cryptographically secure
transformation just to generate a random hostname.

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