----- Original Message ----- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Yup. The "normal" mount contains nothing that normal users should access. > > Accessing the photos will leave ghosts on the device, and there have been > > no > > ways to update the music database in Linux for a few iOS releases. > > I very much doubt that anyone would release any code to touch an idevice > music database due to fear of > legal action from the manufacturer. It may exist already. > > The ability to sync contacts, calendars and events, meeting info, notes, > pictures etc ( anything that would be considered the personal data entered > by the idevice owner is another matter entirely. Anything that the law > provides in most countries such as the IP to that person or the copyright of > documents or photos etc, and yes it can be a very grey area between the laws > in different countries. This is just the other side of the coin but this > time from the owners perspective and legal rights. What Linux applications support syncing those contacts? Are you sure they actually require the mounted filesystem? > is > > > > You can still access the device by editing the URL in the "Documents on..." > > location. Just remove the ":3" at the end. > > Thanks for this info, > > > > If you have use cases that aren't the 2 mentioned above, or using your > > iDevice > > as a thumb drive, please file bugs against gvfs in the upstream GNOME > > Bugzilla. > > > > Cheers > > > While I agree for the normal non developer user, the removal, to be able to > access what you could originally access, on the idevice before the code > change, may be of little value. > > It is frustrating if you are developing applications and need access to these > areas for debugging, checking directory, files and structure etc of the > idevice. > > It is even more frustrating when the Fedora workstation is being targetted as > a developer's platform, and it also affects any downstream distribution > developers in the same way. How do you develop iOS applications on Linux? In any case, it's not a target of Fedora Workstation. It could be, but it's not. > While nautilus still exposes the pictures on an idevice through gphoto2 > system does not seem to have changed. I can't parse that. > As far as I am aware it is possible to copy pictures from the idevice but > transfers of pictures to the idevice will succeed, but will not be shown on > the idevice by native apps without further hacking. So it doesn't work. Sure you could use, and you can still use, the partition as storage. But I don't see the point in doing that. > The other mount exposes the so called document folder of some user installed > apps on the idevice and may be useful for someone developing It's useful for adding files to applications, for example, music, photos, or documents in most 3rd-party applications. > but is off > limited use to a normal non developer user, unless the normal non developer > wants to use the phone as a usb drive to transport files without carrying an > extra usb drive. > > The removal of the nautilus properties page on an connected idevice does have > an effect that a nautilus-ideviceinfo extension that has been in gnome git > for many years cannot be easily exposed and used and a gnome bugzilla entry > has been active from last year without even a comment to date. That's unrelated. > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741302 > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus-ideviceinfo/log/?ofs=100 > > http://blog.sukimashita.com/2015/01/09/gtk-3-support-for-nautilus-ideviceinfo/ > > I hope this can be resolved in the short term as it provides all users of > idevices with info that is expected today and further benefits > the foss community and the goals of Fedora, Gnome and downstream > distributions etc. Showing all the possible partitions doesn't help anyone, that I can see. Explain how the data on that partition is useful to the large majority of iOS/Linux users, and we can investigate. Cheers _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx