Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

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On 10/04/2016 12:06 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> 
> On Oct 4, 2016 8:52 AM, "Adam Williamson" <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> Recently several reports of people getting 'duplicated packages' and
>> 'kernel updates not working' have come through to us in QA from Fedora
>> 24 users. I managed to get one reporter to explain more specifically
>> what happened, and it sounds a lot like what's happening is that
>> something in the 'dnf update' process can cause a GNOME or X crash,
>> possibly depending on hardware or package set installed. When that
>> happens, the update process is killed and does not complete cleanly,
>> which is why you get 'duplicated packages' and other odd results.
> 
> How hard would it be to make dnf do the rpm transaction inside a proper
> system-level service (transient or otherwise)?  This would greatly increase
> robustness against desktop crashes, ssh connection loss, KillUserProcs, and
> other damaging goofs.

That seems like a waste of effort, considering we have the offline updates
process which just boots into a special, minimalist environment with almost
nothing but the updater running.


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