On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:00:56AM -0500, seth vidal wrote: > Packaging problems happen often when you mix a lot of repositories, yes. > Also there are a number of occasions where fedora updates-released cause > packaging problems. I've found if you don't output anything while things > are going on people infer that to be slow. If you do output something So show an ETA :) > > I hate to have to tell this, but other package managers show the ETA for the > > whole thing just fine. They know how much they have do download, and they also > > know how fast it is comming, and they know how to divide one by the other. > > How do you know how fast it will come before downloading anything? You are joking, right? :) Do you need to download everything to give an estimate? I wonder how all those progress bars in mozilla, thunderbird, wget, lftp, ncftp, zmodem, xmodem, etc. work then. > > I was afraid it would piss people off. That's not what I meant. If you think > > the above suggestions are crap, too bad. I was trying to help. > > So help, then, open rfes. I'm sure these things will be implemented some time. > > In fact, why don't > > you alias yum="strace yum" if it's that buggy that you need to debug it all the > > time. > > You don't think that sort of comment is unnecessary and inflammatory? Of course. I was agitated by Jeff's typical reaction, apologies.