On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 16:08 +0100, Enrico Scholz wrote: > dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx (Dan Williams) writes: > > >> > Removed package gv > >> there are enough alternatives. But e.g. viewing postscript files is a > >> common task and I do not know a program which can replace 'gv'. And games > > > > Um, ggv or gpdf? or kpd? or xpdf? > > *pdf does not display PS files. > > > > I'd personally use ggv, > > This has huge startup times (5 seconds) where gv appears in <1 second, > is dog slow accross ssh tunnels and has unergonomic keyboard bindings > (every viewer can be terminated with pressing 'Q' -- but not ggv which > follows probably a stupid Gnome guide and requires ^W). If you don't like the software in Core, you are fully allowed and encouraged to install add-ons from Extras or other places. Core cannot and should not try to meet everyone's personal preferences, and should not carry six apps that do the same thing. There's a reason it's called "Core" and not "Everything". ;-) Between gv and ggv, ggv is entirely the correct app to choose for Core. While 'q' may be common among certain viewing apps, it is *not* common among GUI apps in general, and the key bindings should be consistent across the *entire* desktop. Startup time, while _very_ unfortunate if slow, takes second seat to user interface concerns. Again, if you dislike ggv, don't use it, and install something you do like. In any event, Evince is likely to replace both ggv and gpdf (hopefully even by Fedora Core 4's release, if we're lucky) so check that out and see if it's speedy enough for you. (It seems snappy as can possibly be on my machine.) http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/ (FC RPMs available at that site)