On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 02:19:49AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Solomon Peachy <pizza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:19:07PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> Still not reasonable for Fedora, I think. Red Hat, and RHEL, can > >> manage registered licensing to build this binary blob. But binary > >> blobs with no tool chain to build htem? > > > > So it's okay to ship opaque-but-redistributable binary blobs that don't > > run on the host CPU (aka device firmware) without any source code (much > > less a toolchain that can build it), but shipping something that comes > > with fully redistributable (if not outright Free) source code is bad > > because there's no Free toolchain to compile it? That doesn't make > > sense. > > > > I'm just trying to understand how FPGA "firmware" is any different than > > regular device firmware, and how having source code code available > > suddenly turns something from okay to include into something we can't. > > > > - Solomon > > I detest both. Rechecking the published standard at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Binary_Firmware, it > doesn't specifically list "must be compilable by Fedora developers > with Fedora tools", so you've a point. > > It's still making me hold my nose and go "eewwww". I think all involved really detest the situation and accept that it is a horrible situation to be in. None the less, Fedora policy explicitly allows opaque but redistributable firmware blobs. So unless someone wants to push through a change to the policy I don't see a reason in Fedora policy that would cause us to treat FPGA firmware differently from existing firmware blobs we distribute. Regards, Daniel -- |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :| -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
