On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 08:51:38PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Garrett Holmstrom > <gholms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2016-07-07 05:13, Jan Kurik wrote: > >> > >> == Scope == > >> * Proposal owners: > >> - work upstream to clarify what is the best way for programs to mark > >> themselves to survive logout > >> - update the documentation with more explanations and examples, as we > >> learn what people find confusing in the current scheme of things > >> - evaluate a "permissive" mode for KillUserProcesses, to make it > >> easier to debug processes which stay around after a session terminates > >> - remove the compile-time override in the systemd package > >> - work with upstream authors and Fedora maintainers of programs like > >> screen and tmux to implement the ability to automatically start them > >> in a way that survives a user session, and if the system policy does > >> not allow that, to warn the user. > >> > >> * Other developers: > >> - cooperate on the last item from previous point > >> - identify additional services which need to adapt to the changed default. > >> > >> Different services might merit different handling here: some might be > >> updated them to start through the non-session-specific dbus instance, > >> some might need documentation changes, while others possibly should be > >> handled like tmux and screen. > >> > >> * Release engineering: N/A > >> > >> * List of deliverables: N/A (not a System Wide Change) > > > > > > But this is a system-wide change. Is the intention to fill out this list as > > people learn what needs to be changed? > > That is my fault as I overlooked this. It is fixed now on the wiki. I think the list of things to be changed is in the "Scope" section. "Deliverables" sounds like new "things" that would be created, e.g. a installation image or whatever. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx