On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 03:48 +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:54:49 +0100, Ralf Ertzinger > > > <fedora-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I am running rawhide with smart. Enabled repos are fc-devel@0, freshrpms@0, > > > > dag@-5 newrpms@-5, atrpms-stable@-10, atrpms-good@-10, atrpms-bleeding@-20. > > > > > > > > It's heaven. > > > > > > Maybe to you... but i have sincere doubts that using smart is helping > > > to identify real packaging problems that exist. Has smart helped you > > > identify and report any rawhide packaging bugs? > > > > I don't think smart is intended to be a tool to identify real packaging > > problems. But there's a nice option that prints all unsatisfied > > dependencies. And I hope we can extend that dialog with more details of > > problems. > > > > In fact this dialog has helped Dries and me to improve our repository and > > fix a number of issues 3 days after Smart was released. Smart was also > > able to tell what old packages were still available that had issues we > > already fixed. > > > > Apart from that, I don't think it's good behaviour to bail out if there is > > a packaging problem. People may miss important updates just because > > somewhere, someone made a mistake. It could even be due to a mirror > > inconsistency, not something that can be fixed by a packager anyway. > > I think the situation where it exits with all the problems listed is > better than cheerily moving along and seemingly finishing completely > even though not all updates have been applied. I beg to differ. Security updates may not get installed from the Core updates because Extras has a problem that could be mirror-related. I did not say that keeping things silent is the way to go, but bailing out because of a single problem is imo not a good idea. By default I would not want to confront my family with issues like that, things they wouldn't know how to handle anyway. Also people that don't know what it means often get a wrong perception. But we do not have to agree on this, there's room for different package managers. -- dag wieers, dag@xxxxxxxxxx, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power]
