Hi, At a recent QA meeting I raised the idea of a better way for maintainers to find out when their package is a release blocking bug. Better is vaguely defined by me as: not email based, and not adamw based (Adam Williamson is in fact a person not a bot). Currently, the ways a maintainer finds out a bug is release blocking: 1. Bugzilla email. When QA determines a bug is a blocker, it's noted in the bug as a comment, and bugzilla emails (most) everyone on the cc. The problem with email is self-explanatory. If the bugzilla notification email isn't being registered in a useful way, probably more emails won't help either. 2. The very nifty Fedora Blocker Bug Tracking app https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ The problem with this is, it's passive. You need to check it. So it's mainly used by QA folks to get a bird's eye view of the status of blocker bugs, and freeze exceptions. 3. The illustrious, humorous, verbose, would have been cloned by now were it affordable and timely enough, adamw, who sends out an email summary of blocking bugs to devel@. Problem, more email. 4. Adamw (or less often another human within QA) takes it upon themselves to inquire via IRC. These are effective. Unknown is if slips would have resulted if they didn't happen. But it seems at least plausible that it would increase slips without this form of nagging (reminding). The problem is, I think it's inappropriate for any one person to have to nag other people about their bugs. It's also tedious and manual. The time and interest for any QA person to do this is low. The questions then, are: - Have we reached the pinnacle notification method of blocker bugs to maintainers? Or is there a better way to do this? - Would it help to have a nagbot (or enhance zodbot) to ping maintainers on IRC? Is the nagbot more or less likely to be ignored, or would it be about the same? Of course there are lower level questions about whether it's possible, what work it entails, would it be opt in or opt out, could notifications happen outside IRC, but for now I think the "in general" high level context is more useful. -- Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx