Hi, folks! I thought I'd better send out a notice so people know what's going on here. Any errors in this explanation are my own, dgilmore will correct me if I'm wrong on any details. release engineering is currently working to switch the compose process over to Pungi 4. Specifically, the old nightly compose process for Rawhide has been disabled, and it was never enabled for Fedora 24. The whole process of running openQA tests on new composes, generating the "compose check reports", and creating release validation events on the wiki was tied to the way the old compose process worked. All those things need to be changed somewhat for the new compose process. We are rebuilding the airplane in flight, if you could please hold on to the engine and/or wing closest to you, that would help. ;) # openQA We have rewritten the openQA job scheduler to cue off Pungi 4 "compose complete!" messages and use Pungi 4 / productmd'ish ways to identify composes and images. I'm right in the middle of pushing those changes out now. This *should* mean that openQA tests hand over relatively smoothly, and there will be openQA test runs for every Pungi 4 compose, as it lands. There may be a few teething problems with this, we'll see as we go along. Note for anyone who follows openQA closely or does anything with its output, the format we use for openQA 'BUILD's and 'FLAVOR's has changed. Previously, the 'BUILD' value was based on my fedfind/wikitcms version concept, it was simply the fedfind 'release', 'milestone' and 'compose' joined with underscores (e.g. 23_Beta_RC2 or 24_Branched_20160225). We now use the Pungi 4 / productmd 'compose ID' value. This looks like 'Fedora-RELEASE-DATE(.TYPE).RESPIN', where RELEASE is a release number or 'Rawhide', DATE is the date the compose happened in YYYYMMDD format, TYPE is the 'compose type' ('n' for "nightly" composes, 't' for "test" composes, and nothing - this part is omitted - for "production" composes), and RESPIN is an integer that gets incremented when you do more than one compose which otherwise would have the same id (e.g. your compose blows up and you have to do it again). If you need to parse productmd "compose IDs", the python-productmd package has some bits for doing it. The 'FLAVOR' similarly used to be based on fedfind concepts (it was 'PAYLOAD_IMAGETYPE'), it's now based on productmd concepts - flavor is now 'PAYLOAD-TYPE-FORMAT'. TYPE and FORMAT are productmd properties (we replace dashes with underscores so parsing the flavor back out works). PAYLOAD we unfortunately have to synthesize, because productmd doesn't really provide any convenient property for, say, "the KDE live image". productmd has a 'variant' concept, but all desktop lives are part of the "Spins" variant, so that's no use (we can't use it to tell KDE from LXDE). So we just have to kinda hack this up for now. I'm trying to get it improved in productmd/pungi somehow. # check-compose "Compose check reports" are going to be broken for a bit, probably a day or two. They're quite heavily tied to fedfind versioning and to an assumption which is no longer true: there will be exactly one nightly compose per day. When we decide what compose to compare the latest compose against, we simply pick the compose for the same release from the previous day. This doesn't work any more, because of how pungi4 has 'respins' and the respin identifier goes into the compose ID. When we have 'Fedora-24-20160224.n.0' we don't know what to compare it to, because we don't know how many respins there were on 20160223. What we'll have to do instead is query PDC to find the previous successful compose of the same type, and compare to that. It will also make sense to use productmd-style image identification rather than fedfind-style. The question of *when to run* check-compose is also an interesting one; again it's currently cheating by making assumptions (it starts up a couple of hours before the nightly compose is expected to complete and waits 8 hours, on the assumption the compose will show up and openQA testing will complete during that 8 hour span). What it ideally should do is run when openQA sends out a message that testing of a nightly compose has completed. This is a bit difficult at present because openQA doesn't do that. =) So I'm hoping to add support for that into openQA somehow or other, but in the worst case it might have to keep running on a dumb timer for a while if that proves harder than expected, or perhaps run as a daemon which checks in with openQA every half hour with some clever query to figure out if a compose has completed testing in the meantime. # Wikitcms The whole wiki release validation process is probably going to be the hardest to adapt, and also won't be possible to do until we have an idea how we're going to handle milestone releases and TCs/RCs, so I'm kinda planning to start working on it once the Pungi 4 switchover has shaken down and releng have some cycles to discuss and think about that. There will be some subjective human decisions to be made for sure, I think, so when we get to it, there'll be some discussion threads. Prepare yourself :) For the present, there won't be any more nightly validation events created automatically. If the changeover drags on too long before we decide what to do about TCs/RCs, I'll do something about that, so we're not stuck on an ancient validation event (with the systemd/selinux bug). Ideally, python-wikitcms validation event creation will also cue off fedmsg's; for now it should probably run when any compose completes and make some simple decisions about whether to create an event for that compose. Perhaps in future the decision should take openQA automated test results into account (so we don't create validation events for completely busted composes), but that might be slightly further down the road. Thoughts? Comments? questions? Wanna help? Please let us know! 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