2015-12-18 0:58 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@xxxxxxxxxxx>: >>>>>> "RWMJ" == Richard W M Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > RWMJ> Couldn't it use inotify (or whatever we're using these days to > RWMJ> detect filesystem changes)? So when you drop in the unit file, > RWMJ> systemd notices and reloads. > > Well, the point is that systemd isn't running or even installed when the > daemons are installed. The question is what happens when systemd comes > up later. (And yes, systemd could use rpm file triggers so that we can > drop the scriptlets entirely. That would be great, but it's an entirely > separate discussion.) > > I know this thread has gone in a completely different direction, but the > original message was about modifying or removing the dependencies. Can > we drop dependencies on systemd and still have a system that works as > expected if systemd gets installed later? If so, then dropping the > dependency doesn't actually hurt anything since the kernel will still > pull it in, and thus the other arguments about this become kind of > pointless. > > - J< We could waste time bickering but Jason made a point. kernel-core requires systemd, so all running instances of Fedora (except for containers) have systemd installed, and since our systemd scriptlets are non failing, we could safely drop the requirements in other packages. I'm in favor of updating systemd guidelines to drop that requirements. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
