Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

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Am 17.12.2015 um 16:57 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Thu, 17.12.15 10:50, Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:40:16PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Nope, that's not the point to make. We ship tons of stuff you don't
always need, but why is this stuff that matters? Is it *that* large?

"Ship" and "require in the most minimal application-only install case"
are different. And "eh, it's not that large" is the approach that's
lead us to having a collective minimal set that is undeniably unwieldy.
If, instead, every package at the base level would take modularity as a
baseline principle, we'd be in a lot better and more flexible state.

Does it have such heavy otherwise unneeded deps?

In some cases, yes. In others, it's deps that don't seem individually
heavy but they add up.

I am not sure I can read this any other way than "Nope, I won't be
specific with numbers and stuff, I just have the 'feeling' that
systemd is large and has huge deps"

read it they way: *anything* which is *not missed* when it's not installed should not be installed - period - there is nothing to dicuss about

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