Re: %post RPM scriptlets and dependencies

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On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Michael Schroeder <mls@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 12:58:41PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 10.12.2015 um 12:53 schrieb Rex Dieter:
> >Florian Weimer wrote:
> >
> >>When a %post scriptlet runs, is it guaranteed that the Requires:
> >>dependencies have been unpacked?  I understand that for cycle-breaking
> >>purposes, it may not be true that the scriptlets for dependencies have
> >>run.  But are the files already there?
> >
> >I think the answer in general is no, you cannot be guaranteed that Requires:
> >get installed before %post runs.  That's one reason why Requires(post)
> >exists
>
> sounds terrible
>
> what's with the "Require" of a "Requires(post)" to guarantee that
> the "Requires(post)" *really* work sucessful? sounds fragile

Relax, the difference between Requires and Requires(post) is rather
small. It only makes a difference when breaking dependency cycles,
and in that case there's no correct solution anyway.

I.e. if package A has "Requires: B" and package B has
"Requires(post): A", there's really no correct order.

"First A then B" is incorrect because "A Requires B" may mean that
B must by 100% installed (with postinstall scriptlets) for A to work,
thus A may still not work in B's post script.

Cheers,
  Michael.

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​As I recall, I believe there was a way in RPM at some point to declare a dependency that must be unpacked and installed prior to ​starting to do anything with a package, but I don't remember what is was. Debian has the equivalent as "Pre-Depends", which essentially guarantees that it is unpacked prior to starting the installation (and running associated scriptlets). I think it was called "PreReq", but I vaguely remember hearing at one point that this doesn't actually work anymore?



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