Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:35:41 +0100

Am 07.11.2015 um 16:24 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 15:48:20 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

Fedora 23 was *released* with rpm-4.13.0-0.rc1.3.fc23.x86_64.rpm

Yes. Multiple people have touched the package, keeping this different
versioning scheme. It's a lost cause.

your complaints have *nothing* to do with teh fact that DNF is
constantly unable to deal with local packages, not only that ones, most
of the time

True. I know that my comment was off-topic.

Btw, it's odd already that "dnf update rpm*.rpm" refuses to install
packages that are not installed as older version. Compare that with
"rpm -Uvh …" and "rpm -Fvh …". It would make sense to mimic those
two commands in tools that install from repositories.

no - that is correct and i would blame rpm that "U" also installs

simple example:

* on my machines i try to uninstall all unneeded stuff
* koji download for testing
* a dozen of subpackages
* instead compare 5 minutes which one i need click
  on all 5 downloadlinks and "dnf update *.rpm"
  (if it would work) would only update as told and
  should only pull one of them if it is a new dependency

Instead, every two years and a half, developers of new tools come up
with new (mis-)behaviour. Sometimes with strange rationales, sometimes
with none. Originally, Yum didn't look at latest packages when asking
it to install something. It picked the first version it could find,
only to replace it immediately afterwards during the first "yum update".

only the fact that DNF downloads/refreshs metadata when doing a 
localinstall / localupdate is a regression - YUM was smart in that 
context and did it if a dependency could not be solved with the local 
files from the commandline

In DNF, the manual is full of renamed [deprecated] commands already.
Puzzling!

    Update Command
        dnf [options] update
               Deprecated alias for the Upgrade Command.

    Erase Command
        dnf [options] erase <spec>...
               Deprecated alias for the Remove Command.

    Distribution-synchronization command
        dnf distribution-synchronization
               Deprecated alias for the Distro-sync command.

    Update-To Command
        dnf [options] update-to <package-nevr-specs>...
               Deprecated alias for the Upgrade-To Command

who cares about millions of documents, users trained things over years 
and scripts written when draw backward compatibility is so much easier....

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