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On 09/14/2015 12:04 PM, Adam Williamson
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On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 12:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:and much more important: if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan" like installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution over the long because that would mean finally you have a core OS and handle anything else like Microsoft or Apple - does anybody really want to go that road?I do. Yes. Or rather, I'd say we're already doing this, we're just not clear that we *know* it. .... And of course there is the brave new world of containers. There is currently no 'official' way (so far as I'm aware) to deploy containers on Fedora: absolutely everyone who's running Fedora as a container host OS is working entirely outside the lines of the distribution-as- software-provider. So do we still believe we're not doing this already? I take your point that an orthodox base system approach is not sufficient. What I am worried about, though, is the plethora of solutions we are considering to address that: package-specific installers, bundling, containers, Composer, secondary repos like Fusion and COPR, and I am sure I forgot something else. It just screams 'combinatorial explosion', with red carpet and a big neon saying 'combinatorial explosion' over it. It's great that we have a discussion about which approach is best, but I think we should try to pick _something_, rather than giving up and welcoming all of them. Of course, at the moment it's entirely unclear and premature to decide, but I believe that at least we should recognize that "there should be only one" eventually. |
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