2015-09-14 13:17 GMT+02:00 Andrew Haley <aph@xxxxxxxxxx>: > On 09/13/2015 09:23 PM, Haïkel wrote: >> I'm not speaking about PHP, most of the upstream I deal with >> are python developers. Bad habits are rather spreading than >> regressing. > > We're not going to solve that problem by adopting bad habits > ourselves. > > Andrew. > Did I request somewhere to *drop* unbundling? I'm more concerned by the current habit to let bundled libraries sneak in the repositories without being properly tracked rather than a non-existing one. I suggested that we allow to a certain extent bundling under conditions: * enforcing bundled libraries tracking * requiring approval from trusted packagers (I suggested that Fesco/FPC allow selected SIGs to grant bundling requests on *limited* set of packages => ie: python SIG for python modules that are not critpath) * distinguishing case where unbundling is unnecessary (ie: upstream maintains both lib and application, and lib is not meant to be used standalone) That still leaves out a lot of packages not acceptable in Fedora and I'm more in favor of tighter integration of copr for these (ie: having blessed copr repo) Nick made a very appealing proposal about software pipeline in that area. Our role is mitigate bad habits and educate upstream, not ignoring them. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct