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On 09/11/2015 05:35 PM, Stephen
Gallagher wrote:
To me (speaking as a user of Fedora, maintainer of Fedora software and developer of both Fedora and upstream projects), the current situation is not ideal. In many cases, we're holding so rigidly to the "no bundling" policy that it is actively harmful to Fedora's Mission: "The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community." When we aren't capable of shipping and working with upstreams that *are* advancing the FOSS world, we are failing in our mission to be a leader in that space. Of whom are you speaking of that advances the FOSS world so dearly ? Why does you as user of Fedora, maintainer of Fedora software and developer of both Fedora ( not sure what developer of Fedora is supposed to mean unless you have been developing for the projects support systems ) and upstream projects, taking their point of view of that argument, claiming that the community cannot work with upstream community(s) and should change it's shape ( the same community it's members have for the past 10 years argued and convinced people to do the opposite of what you now propose ) to suit their needs since it's them who are unwilling to un-bundle their application or application stack? And arguably Fedora already has more software than people to maintain it so ( continuing ) being without few unwilling to un-bundle upstreams would only do the distribution more good than harm. JBG |
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