On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 09:02 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > One can only tilt at windmills for so long before one's horse gives > out. This battle has been fought for years and while it has not been > entirely fruitless, it's not yielding significant results I think this rather undersells it, to be fair. I think that back before the emergence of large ecosystems where bundling was the norm, distro bundling policies probably *did* yield significant results - distros had more power then, the F/OSS ecosystem was smaller and easier to impose norms on. The problem we face now is that the world has changed and there are huge chunks of the F/OSS ecosystem which see bundling as just the way they do things; the problem with our current policy is it gives us no way to even reasonably consider what's an appropriate relationship with those ecosystems. All we can do is repeat the ~1995 mantra that the One True Way to work with Fedora is to turn your software into some nicely unbundled RPM packages, which is something they will just laugh out of court, and then we're effectively just not talking to each other at all. I'd prefer us to have some kind of sensible relationship with those kinds of ecosystems - even if in the end it's simply to say 'the way you get this software on Fedora is to use their distribution mechanism', and our job is just to work with the ecosystem to make sure that works nicely on Fedora. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
