>>>>> "SS" == Simo Sorce <ssorce@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: SS> I have the impression (which may be totally wrong) that you are SS> taking the binary approach here: either we care maximally or we do SS> not care at all. I sure hope that's not the tack I'm taking. SS> It seem to me Stephen is making a proposal to tweak just one SS> specific aspect of packaging rule, that is a softer enforcement SS> model. FPC still has a truckload other good rules about packaging SS> and nobody believes FPC should stop caring about overall package SS> quality. Indeed, that sums up Stephen's proposal. Others (and specifically, the message to which I was responding) sort of pushed the realm a bit farther than just relaxing one rule. Indeed, it was pushed out to the idea that "good packaging" should be subservient to "features" and "first". Which it very may well be; that's not FPC's decision. When FPC is tasked to set out guidelines to enforce "good packaging", that's what it does. It's somewhat of a blunt instrument, because that's what it has been asked to be. I don't happen to agree with Stephen's proposal, but I do agree that at the very least FPC needs to tighten up the language surrounding the exception process. Personally I would like to relax the rules as well, but that's just my opinion and I haven't really fleshed it out to the point that I could articulate anything reasonably. Anyway, what I don't get is why we're to the point of tossing out the primary anti-bundling rule when FESCo has always had the power to override any FPC decision. So FPC says "this isn't good packaging" and FESCo can say "we understand, but quality packaging here is subservient to the distro's mission". That's always been the case, even when the "E" stood for "Extras", and I suspect it would have worked just fine for this situation. Instead we're here debating whether FPC should be in the business of reviewing bundling issues at all. - J< -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
