On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 12:39 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>>>> "MM" == Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > MM> That said, I do recognize that "provides high-quality packages" has > MM> also always been an underlying Fedora value even if unstated. But, I > MM> think that _that_ value should be in support of the Big Four, and in > MM> support of our mission in general, not a sacred beast for its own > MM> sake. > > Well, for the FPC, high quality packaging is pretty much our only > mission. I'm trying to avoid veering off into hyperbole here, but if we > can't be focused on our specific mission then that kind of complicates > our job. > > But if FESCo or the board or whoever wants to say that we no longer > really care about bundling, then FPC will stop caring. Right now we've > been told to care about bundling and so we developed all of this process > and rules to implement that directive. Hi Jason, I have the impression (which may be totally wrong) that you are taking the binary approach here: either we care maximally or we do not care at all. It seem to me Stephen is making a proposal to tweak just one specific aspect of packaging rule, that is a softer enforcement model. FPC still has a truckload other good rules about packaging and nobody believes FPC should stop caring about overall package quality. I have mixed opinions myself about allowing bundling, on the one side it makes some things worse, on the other hand, however it is sometimes a way too step barrier to entrance. I've come to the conclusion I'd rather see a softer approach with strong encouragement to use unbundled libraries and a need to justify credibly why a bundled library is used but not a hard rule against it in all cases with hard exceptions to be doled out by the FPC, I think package review should be able to handle it. This risks making somewhat harder to police egregious mis-behavior, but I am sure there are other ways to deal with offenders that willfully break reasonable rules. HTH, Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
