On Mon, 2015-08-31 at 12:13 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 2015-08-31, 07:05 GMT, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > Again, if it works for Adam (or anybody else) it is awesome, but > > > I would strongly discourage anybody who is not willing to invest > > > substntial amount of a sweat equity from packaging the package > > > for Fedora/EPEL. > > > > Not entirely sure if you meant packaging radicale, but if that is > > the case, > > radicale is already packaged in Fedora and epel 6 and 7. > > OK, perhaps I was more afraid that many people will read Adam’s > email as “ownCloud is crap, Radicale rulez, let’s jump on that > wagon everybody!”. Radicale is a minefield, and if your path > happens to avoid the disaster than you may feel it works well. > However, one step from the safe path and you are doomed (e.g., > using Thunderbird). I said Radicale 'or something like it'. I like Radicale because its design approach happens to tie in exactly with my requirements: it actively chooses not to be a full caldav/carddav implementation but instead one which is designed to be as simple as possible in order to work with a commonly used subset of clients. I love that, because all my clients are in the subset and I'm very happy with a server that's as simple as goddamn possible. But if it doesn't work for you, there are many options which are still not as big as 'an entire personal cloud system with seven different JavaScript minifiers and a code lexer in it'. There's using SabreDAV directly, and Radicale even directs you to several other alternatives in its 'technical choices' page, http://radicale.org/technical_choices/ . There isn't really a great alternative to ownCloud (that I know of) if you actually *want* a 'personal cloud server' with all the bits OC has, but I realized I just don't and I can't stand the pain of maintaining that beast just to keep my calendar and contacts synchronized. I do honestly feel bad about it, but I'd rather be up- front than pretend I'm still doing it but actually never get around to it. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct