On 2015-08-29, 21:27 GMT, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks. So I've been maintaining ownCloud for the last little > while. Unfortunately I sat down today to try again and update the > package to the latest upstream (8.1.1), and somewhere in the second > hour of insanely stupid PHP autoloader code, I just snapped. I can't > take this crap any more. Hi, Adam, thank you very much for your effort! Whatever future holds, you have made it possible to run ownCloud on RHEL with more or less working setup. THANK YOU! > I'm very sorry to folks who are using it, but I really can't deal with > the crap any more. If all you need is calendar/contact sync, there are > easier ways. Check out Radicale or something like it. Of course, if Radicale works for you, gnu be with you and go for it! That’s all what really matters. However, let me add a word of warning for others, because it doesn’t have to work for everybody: * Radicale (https://github.com/Kozea/Radicale) is a tiny project with a five and half substantial (more than 10 commits) committers (the half is for "System User"), huge majority of them (534, next in the order 26) by one commiter. There is nothing wrong with a project like that, but it has some consequences. * Radicale does not and will not support full Ca*DAV specs and it seems to be "works for me" level of support and there doesn't seem to be much effort to fix issues which the maintainer is not interested in. So for example, Thunderbird/SOGO DOES NOT work (creates a duplicate items in the addressbook and calendar) and the issue seems to be open since 2013 (https://github.com/Kozea/Radicale/issues/42). Again, if it works for Adam (or anybody else) it is awesome, but I would strongly discourage anybody who is not willing to invest substntial amount of a sweat equity from packaging the package for Fedora/EPEL. Best, Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mcepl@xxxxxxxxxx GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC To err is human, to purr feline. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct