Re: Puppet 4

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On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The "/etc" migration, however, is part of the "stateless linux" work
>> desribed at http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/stateless.html.  They're
>> planning on resetting "/etc" to a "pristine vendor state", and
>> basdically keep it that way. That's a pretty basic violation of 30
>> years of the use of "/etc".
>
>
> You appear to ignore the fact that they aren't forcing every system to be
> "stateless".  They specifically discuss at several points that "stateful"
> systems where /etc et al work as they always have will continue to be
> supported.

Except where they don't, and it's unpredictable where they will break
things. They're already broken /etc/resolv.conf several times with
back&forth inconsistent replacement of it with a symlink, and they
don't seem to understand that establishing a configuraton symlink,
controlling the target of it,  and failing to keep the symlink
established will intermittently break all longstanding network
configuration tools.

And yes, they are "strongly pressuring" if not forcing" it by
migrating core system configurations into the systemd managed
"stateless" directories. This already includes system logging and
DHCP.
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