On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 23:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > a sane system should be as simple as possible so that *one* human is > able to determine what is happening without hire 10 specialists for > each > layer There is no human able to understand a complex system like modern computers and OSs, it is just an illusion. But we can improve user's lives better by providing defaults that make the system work better in the general case and leave to specialists with special needs to tweak the system or remove unwanted layers. > in short: leave me in peace with defaults raising complexity more and > more, i have enough with dbus, a now essential service which cant be > restarted after updates of underlying libraries while it was no > problem > over many years to type "chkconfig messagebus off" on servers and > have > no single process except the services you installed and configured You are free to keep using your kickstart files, nobody is going to mess with those. you already have many other "special" needs apparently, so can you stop getting mad whenever there is *any* change ? The world is not static, it keeps changing and we can adapt or die. We, as a community, are adapting, but you as an individual are free to diverge with your personal configuration. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct