----- Original Message ----- > From: "Miloslav Trmač" <mitr@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 9:41:06 PM > Subject: Re: F23 Self Contained Change: Netizen Spin > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:50:44AM -0600, Pete Travis wrote: > > > A spin is a big effort with many interoperating packages and coordination > > > with other teams (primarily releng, but you should also seek guidance > > > from > > > QA). It qualifies as a System Wide Change. > > > > Especially if this particular spin is asking for significant deviation > > from our standard config (something I'm unclear about -- see Spins list > > discussion). In that case, this definitely should be considered as > > system-wide. > > On this particular procedural point, I think _all_ spins should be considered > system-wide due to the required involvement of rel-eng, council and others; > they are by no means “self-contained” in the sense that nobody else needs to > help with getting them done. The question whether Spins need to be System-wide or Self-contained Changes has been raised on the last FESCo meeting and the conclusion was to have Spins as Self-contained. However every request for a Spin goes to FESCo for a review. So, FESCo has the opportunity to turn a specific Spin requests to a System-wide change if they consider so. Regards, Jan > And generally I agree with the concern raised on the spins list > (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/2015-May/004222.html and > following) that the spin description can, at least by a quick read without > reading the actual kickstart, likely to be misunderstood to deliver more > than it actually does. For example, just including a tor package by no means > guarantees privacy (e.g. it does nothing about all the ways Fedora leaks > information about being Fedora). > Mirek > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Jan Kuřík Platform Program Manager Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkynova 99/71, 612 45 Brno, Czech Republic -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
