On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 02:21:48PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 28 April 2015 at 13:40, Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:47:18PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > Time in UTC is just as absurd and arbitrary as time in a local > > > > timezone, > > > No, it's not. This has been written about many times, but in short: > > > - the information about the timezone used is not stored in RTC, > > > so all users of RTC need to be configured to use the same timezone > > > externally > > > > It surprises me that we see these issues even with UEFI, which seems to > > include support for timezone and DST information [1]. I can confirm this > > myself, I have UEFI with Fedora 21 and Win7 at home, and I noticed that > > there seems to be a fsck running on every Fedora boot. I haven't had time > > to debug it properly yet, but it doesn't seem to work properly out of the > > box. Moreover, if I look into `journalctl -b`, I see time shifted during > > the boot process (which kind of messes up the history whenever I search in > > it). I haven't reported any bug yet, but there's certainly something not > > working out of the box there. > > > > > This is the bug that started this thread: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201978 This not the right bug. The problem is a combination of two bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1202024 is about fsck.ext4 running full check when the date was off by less then 24h. I is now changed to only print a warning. Eric Sandeen mentioned this commit in the other part of the thread, and made an update with that patch which is now in updates-testing. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201979 is about systemd being stupid and rerunning root fsck, which sometimes triggered the first issue. I just posted a patch upstream: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-May/031445.html Hopefully those bugs will be closed soon. It doesn't change the fact that RTC-in-localtime is wrong in general, but at least this aspect will be fixed. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
