On 03/18/2015 09:05 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 18/03/15 11:55, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Matthew Miller >>> <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> The glibc team has a fix for a longstanding issue, which is that >>>> "instlangs" hasn't worked in the installer. This means that in a >>>> minimal image of about 400MB, 100MB is translation information. (Of >>>> course we want Fedora to be international, but there are many cases >>>> like Docker containers where no human is really even looking inside, so >>>> it's just overhead.) >>>> >>>> In the cloud and docker images, we've been carrying horribly hacks >>>> (really, horrible) to strip this out ofter the fact. The new fix would >>>> let us get the same effect the right way. I'm told that this is a >>>> low-risk change and does not affect the rest of glibc. So, the question >>>> -- I guess mostly for FESCo, but in general -- is: should we get this >>>> in before the beta, or should it wait for F23? >>> >>> >>> Isn't this causing RPM dependency issues when trying to create rawhide >>> chroots on RHEL6 hosts via mock? I am fairly sure it's the reason >>> COPR rawhide chroots are failing. If so, then I don't think we want >>> it in f22 until that is fixed. >> >> >> Didn't this commit fix that? >> >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/scm-commits/Week-of-Mon-20150316/1539279.html > > Ah, from yesterday. I hadn't seen that yet. I hope it does, because > I have things to build in Rawhide COPRs :). > > Still, I would suggest waiting at least a few days to see if there is > any other fallout before we consider it for f22. It has been 5 days since the fix, and we have had positive confirmation that COPR rawhide builds are proceeding [1]. I've filed the F22 bug to do the backport [2]. Given the internal testing we've done with the patch, and the Fedora Rawhide shakeout, and the desire to improve the cloud/container image sizes, I'm strongly proposing we commit this change for the Beta freeze. As discussed the change has no impact on code, it's entirely a packaging change, which carries it's own risks, but the same kind of risks as a runtime change. Only users running with kickstart --instLangs or setting %_install_langs are going to see any difference. Cheers, Carlos. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477#c57 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1204827 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct