* Mikolaj Izdebski <mizdebsk@xxxxxxxxxx> [2015-02-24 09:58]: > On 02/24/2015 03:32 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote: > > * Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [2015-02-24 09:29]: > >> On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 at 15:09, Deepak Bhole wrote: > >>> * Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [2015-02-24 09:04]: > >>>> On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 at 14:28, Jiri Vanek wrote: > >>>> [...] > >>>>> There were several attempts in past like "can you please support jdk > >>>>> 7,6...in newer fedoras" and we always told no. When come speech about "do it > >>>>> on your own" suddenly many questions marks raised up. > >>>>> > >>>>> The last open bug is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1190137 > >>>>> the guy is willing to maintain it. > >>>> > >>>> Fine, so let him do it and drop the Obsoletes: tag in java-1.8.0-openjdk > >>>> and its successors. You shouldn't arbitrarily block people from > >>>> re-introducing an older branch of any package back into Fedora in the > >>>> first place. > >>>> > >>> > >>> We have no intention of blocking it. The reason for proposing these > >>> restrictions is that the Fedora Java stack will not work with older > >>> JDKs, therefore we need to make sure that it goes not get installed on > >>> the system unless explicitly requested by someone who knows what they > >>> are doing. > >> > >> Well, you do that by adding/updating (Build)Requires: in the packages > >> which won't work otherwise, not by adding Obsoletes:. > >> > > > > That would generally work for most packages, but there is a new JDK > > released every 2 years. This means that we would have to change the BR > > and Requires for the entire Java stack (100s and 100s of packages) every > > 2 years, which is non-trivial. > > First, we have versioned auto-requires generated during package build. > Explicit requires on java aren't usually needed. If package requires > "java > 1:1.7" then it is correct - the package can be assumed to work > with older JDK. > While that is true in terms of source compatibility, it will work only if it is compiled with the older JDK. > Secondly, it is fairly easy to add requires on "java-devel >= 1:1.8" to > packages related to build systems like ant, maven or gradle. This would > cover most cases of building Java packages using latest JDK. > As you stated, it will cover most cases, but not all. More critically, this does not solve the issue with requirement of 'java' itself. Deepak > -- > Mikolaj Izdebski > Software Engineer, Red Hat > IRC: mizdebsk > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
