On 02/24/2015 03:32 PM, Deepak Bhole wrote: > * Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [2015-02-24 09:29]: >> On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 at 15:09, Deepak Bhole wrote: >>> * Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [2015-02-24 09:04]: >>>> On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 at 14:28, Jiri Vanek wrote: >>>> [...] >>>>> There were several attempts in past like "can you please support jdk >>>>> 7,6...in newer fedoras" and we always told no. When come speech about "do it >>>>> on your own" suddenly many questions marks raised up. >>>>> >>>>> The last open bug is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1190137 >>>>> the guy is willing to maintain it. >>>> >>>> Fine, so let him do it and drop the Obsoletes: tag in java-1.8.0-openjdk >>>> and its successors. You shouldn't arbitrarily block people from >>>> re-introducing an older branch of any package back into Fedora in the >>>> first place. >>>> >>> >>> We have no intention of blocking it. The reason for proposing these >>> restrictions is that the Fedora Java stack will not work with older >>> JDKs, therefore we need to make sure that it goes not get installed on >>> the system unless explicitly requested by someone who knows what they >>> are doing. >> >> Well, you do that by adding/updating (Build)Requires: in the packages >> which won't work otherwise, not by adding Obsoletes:. >> > > That would generally work for most packages, but there is a new JDK > released every 2 years. This means that we would have to change the BR > and Requires for the entire Java stack (100s and 100s of packages) every > 2 years, which is non-trivial. First, we have versioned auto-requires generated during package build. Explicit requires on java aren't usually needed. If package requires "java > 1:1.7" then it is correct - the package can be assumed to work with older JDK. Secondly, it is fairly easy to add requires on "java-devel >= 1:1.8" to packages related to build systems like ant, maven or gradle. This would cover most cases of building Java packages using latest JDK. -- Mikolaj Izdebski Software Engineer, Red Hat IRC: mizdebsk -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
