----- Original Message ----- > On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 14:37 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Chris Murphy < > > lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Adam Williamson < > > > adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: > > > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF > > > > > > > > says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: > > > > > > > > > > Seems like fedup is only used on Fedora 21 and older to upgrade to > > > Fedora 22. So dnf support would be needed to get Fedora 22 to > > > fedup to Fedora 23. No? > > > > I guess right after Fedora 22 branch, it would break the ability to > > use fedup to upgrade from Fedora 22 to Rawhide... > > > > There is in fact no strict *technical* requirement for anything to > move from yum to dnf in F22. yum will remain in the F22 package set, > it is not being removed. > > However, the Change seems to me to have been written with the basic > idea that yum shouldn't be installed by default any more and nothing > that's a core part of Fedora should use it any more - for e.g., the > Change incorporates moving anaconda to dnf, even though technically > speaking there's no *need* for this, we could if we wanted to ship F22 > with anaconda using yum but the installed system using dnf. This has implications on another Change - moving to Python 3. See Scope section - http://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default Yum means moving both DNF and Python 3 to Fedora 23. Jaroslav > So given that, I wanted to clarify the status of fedup. > > If F22's fedup depends on yum, then people with 'clean' dnf-only > systems are going to get yum installed when they want to upgrade to > F23. Of course, we could ship F22 on release day with a yum-based > fedup then provide a dnf-based one as an update, but that seems a bit > messy. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
