On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 14:37 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Chris Murphy < > lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Adam Williamson < > > adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF > > > > > > says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: > > > > > > > Seems like fedup is only used on Fedora 21 and older to upgrade to > > Fedora 22. So dnf support would be needed to get Fedora 22 to > > fedup to Fedora 23. No? > > I guess right after Fedora 22 branch, it would break the ability to > use fedup to upgrade from Fedora 22 to Rawhide... > There is in fact no strict *technical* requirement for anything to move from yum to dnf in F22. yum will remain in the F22 package set, it is not being removed. However, the Change seems to me to have been written with the basic idea that yum shouldn't be installed by default any more and nothing that's a core part of Fedora should use it any more - for e.g., the Change incorporates moving anaconda to dnf, even though technically speaking there's no *need* for this, we could if we wanted to ship F22 with anaconda using yum but the installed system using dnf. So given that, I wanted to clarify the status of fedup. If F22's fedup depends on yum, then people with 'clean' dnf-only systems are going to get yum installed when they want to upgrade to F23. Of course, we could ship F22 on release day with a yum-based fedup then provide a dnf-based one as an update, but that seems a bit messy. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct