On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:10:19PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 21.1.2015 v 11:49 Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos napsal(a): > > I'd like to propose an amendment to allow > > bringing packages even if no reviewers are available (the typical case). > > > > Step 6: ... If the proposed package is not reviewed for 2 months, the > > package must be reviewed by the submitter, and a git module with the > > master branch will be approved. > > The self review doesn't make sense, since I expect you did the package > to your best knowledge already and you really want second pair of eyes > to find any issues which slipped through your hands. Yes, I think that a review is always needed if we want to maintain quality. I'd guess that it is even more important for packages which stuck in the queue for a while: - simple and clean packages can often be reviewed and accepted in one sitting, the more complicated always require a few iterations. If nobody even comments this might be a sign that even if nothing is obviously wrong, the spec is unclear/complicated/iffy. - in the two months, things can change: FPC changes guidelines, upstream releases new versions, new warnings appear in the build process, etc. > At least myself, I always looking for reviewer who cares to find every > issues I missed, challenge my knowledge and I'd be quite unhappy to > discover later that something slipped through review unnoticed. +1 > And there is nothing wrong with review swaps. You help others, they help > you. Yes, I think we should amend the wiki to explicitly tell people to write to fedora-devel after a few days. This would be fairly low volume and the is this an important and long-standing issue. Unfortunately review swaps don't work for new packagers, before they are sponsored. They are encouraged to do informal reviews, but those reviews don't carry formal weight. I propose to change this, and allow non-sponsored packagers to do formal reviews, except that an actual packager with review rights has to ack the review. This will reduce the work for exisiting packagers, give potential packagers a way to prove themselves and make sponsorship easier. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct