Re: Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-01-14)

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On 01/16/2015 05:08 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:


On 16 January 2015 at 01:31, Bohuslav Kabrda <bkabrda@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bkabrda@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    ----- Original Message -----
    > Honza Horak wrote:
    > > * Fedora Rings  (hhorak, 12:03:21)
    > [snip]
    > >    * IDEA: definition of ring 1 is a minimal set of packages that give
    > >      you a functional system, with some sort of approval  (hhorak,
    > >      13:31:21)
    > >    * IDEA: ring 1 should be self-hosted -- because you want to build very
    > >      solid important packages using very solid important packages
    > >      (hhorak, 13:31:21)
    >
    > In other words, Fedora Core all over again? Been there, done that…
    >
    >         Kevin Kofler

    Not all of us were there. So what's the problem with that?


Fedora Core was seen by many developers as "You either work in the small
team of Red Hatters and get stuff done" or "You are a volunteer or
someone at Red Hat who isn't part of the cool group and don't get stuff
done."

If you were an "Outsider" and worked on a package that all of a sudden
was "core" you found your version no longer was the one being worked on.

That's a very polite description of the situation, then.

In fact, it was a 2-class hierarchical society with 2 classes of humans. I do not want to see this dark age of fedora's history repeat.

Ralf



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