> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:54:09 +0000 (UTC) > P J P <pj.pandit@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 8:01 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > Ok, I state my opposition to without-password too inequivocably > > > here. Mostly because it is just the same as 'no', given there is no > > > way, in a regular install to seed a key into the root account. > > > > > > Except you have no mechanism to inject a key at installation time, > > > > Sure. Could you please elaborate how would you like this key to be > > injected into the 'root' account? Feature page does have a listed > > workflow change: > > > > "Anaconda installer OR maybe OpenSSH package needs to create > > initial set of authentication keys for 'root' user." That’s not how, to my knowledge, ssh keys are usually deployed; there is one private key per user (or, for the paranoid, one private key per client machine / user’s home directory), not one private key per the server one is connecting to. And creating a key does not really solve the problem: how do the administrators get the key so that they can connect? > > I'd request all(those who are opposing) too describe their > > requirements in the etherpad page above. > > Being able to authenticate as root right after installation would be > the requirement for me. Let’s be precise here; “able to authenticate as root” is an implementation detail; the underlying requirement is something else. “Able to set up IPA”? “Able to run administrative commands in shell?” (e.g. we could just, as a part of firstboot, open a root shell without any authentication ☺ ). Mirek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct