Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

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On 01/04/2015 06:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Gary Scarborough wrote:
Is workstation being aimed at new users or developers?  And is the goal
the same for Gnome?  If Gnome is aiming to cater to new users, then is it
the right primary DE for fedora?  There seems to be a misalignment here.

I've been pointing out that misalignment from day 1. Nobody seems to care.

IMHO, developers are much better served with the KDE Spin:
* Plasma is more configurable and more adapted to the power users that
   developers inevitably are,
* Apper (the package management GUI installed by default on the KDE spin)
   does not hide development packages the way GNOME Software (the package
   management GUI installed by default on the Workstation product) does,
* Qt and kdelibs / KDE Frameworks are a better development platform than
   GTK+ (and yes, I've used both),
* KDevelop is a better IDE than anything GNOME has to offer.

The choice of GNOME as a desktop environment completely contradicts the
claimed target of "developers".

         Kevin Kofler


The Workstation product is generally aimed at developers as per the Target Audience section of the Workstation PRD[1], and the Workstation working group decided on GNOME as the desktop to use to accomplish the goals laid out in the PRD. Although the Workstation PRD sets out a lot of developer-centric goals, the choice of GNOME as the default desktop and the discussion around the not-so-devleoper-centric GNOME Software app and other GNOME features make it seem like the Workstation product is kind of awkwardly straddling the line between a shiny new developer-centric "Workstation" product and the old "Desktop" default GNOME-based spin (whose goals are not really enumerated in the PRD.) In that light I can see how it may look like the choice of GNOME for the Workstation product seem contradictory.

Are there any plans to promote the KDE spin to a product? Reading the Workstation PRD and taking into account their choice of GNOME as the default environment, it looks like there are wide open "Average User," "Power User," and "Cross-Platform Development (via Qt)" target audiences that a new KDE-based "Fedora Desktop" or similar product could easily cater to.

Rich

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD
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