2014-12-28 19:39 GMT+02:00 Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx>:I think that's past the line of what we can reasonably expect a novice user to handle. Proprietary apps are always going to be tough to install on Fedora, since they're not welcome in our software center. And novices who install proprietary graphics drivers are quite likely to wind up with a completely broken system. This is a hard problem.Even the lazy developer will at least expect to be able to watch flash videos
The workflow we have in F21 is this:
* Firefox asks if you want to install the Flash plugin.
* Firefox takes you directly to Adobe's download page for Flash.
* The user magically knows to select YUM for Linux (YUM) and downloads the provided RPM.
* The user magically knows that he can double-click on the RPM (what's an RPM?) to open GNOME Software and install Flash.
I guess the magic leaps are somewhat unfortunate, but it's still easier than dealing with packages, I hope.
and listen to mp3s.
This is more difficult, since we cannot even point users towards where they might possibly find an MP3 codec. I don't think we can fix this without a super PAC or some form of regime change.
The workflow we have in F21 is this:
* Rhythmbox/Totem/Music/whatever tells you that you need a new codec to play the audio.
* The graphical codec search looks in all enabled repositories for the proper plugin.
* It fails because it's broken.
The expected behavior is for it to link to a wiki page that hints at the existence of rpmfusion, but we can't legally do more than that. Now, if the user somehow does manage to find the rpmfusion web site, download the repo RPM, and double click on it (and if codec installer gets fixed), then the codec installer should automatically find and install the codecs he needs when he tries to play the music, so no need for the user to know about gstreamer1-plugins-asdf-fugly et. al. (Of course, none of this works if you try to use random video players that don't know about PackageKit.)
So the experience should be 100% graphical. Finding the right RPM to enable the external repository on the Adobe or rpmfusion website is a pain and we need to improve that, but once you've done that you just double click on it and don't need to worry about packages. I think the biggest step we could improve here is the rpmfusion web site. They really need to replace their homepage with [1], and explain that Fedora apps will find the codecs you need automatically, so that users don't have to keep asking for help with this.
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